/qa/ - >shitting on the rules True, I suppose I should've posted here instead... >Lie What exactly are you accusing me for lying for? That I'm banned from 4chan? Okay, fair, I'm probably not, the site is partually blocked by my ISP instead. (a.4cdn.org and i

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Hypocrite 09/03/2025 (Wed) 21:34:12 Id:ca1dce No. 812

>shitting on the rules True, I suppose I should've posted here instead... >Lie What exactly are you accusing me for lying for? That I'm banned from 4chan? Okay, fair, I'm probably not, the site is partually blocked by my ISP instead. (a.4cdn.org and i.4cdn.org aren't but boards.4chan.org is) That I decided to take my medications? That I wanted to be helpful? That it was me who's been reposting HP's stuff to horsegen ever since he asked for it the first time and nobody helped? Well, it's not possible for me to prove any of that, just like it's not possible for you to prove the opposite. If you mean cucker then I'd like you to elaborate, please, so I could warn people on 4chan about it since I couldn't be in any danger myself by using it but some nice people could get in trouble because of my actions. >Desu Are you judging me here for the actions I commited somewhere else? Personally you have a moral ground to dislike me or even hate, but as a mod that's not cool. >All in all, go seek fools around your own neighb ourhood? Hey I'm just trying to be civil and nice here. I'm not even asking for forgiveness, you don't have to for a right reason. I... I dunno. Do you believe in redemption? Do you believe that everyone could be a good person if they tried to? Maybe not on Earth, but I do. I also believe that locking away, banning and otherwise restricting people doesn't help. But at the same time you can't expect them to change themselves. Funny thing. The only way they could repent is by act, but if you don't nudge them in the right direction, why would they even try to? I don't care what you think about me, I'll try to uphold my promise just to test my own beliefs. But can I ask you to act nicer to other penitents in the future, to try to guide them on the right way instead of refusing them? Don't act the way 4cuck mods do and are hated for. It might even work here, this place isn't as big as 4chan is after all. I'll add my concerns about the technical stuff here because I don't feel like waiting the posting cooldown to post in the right thread. Berate me for my laziness if you must. The red text you add under posts doesn't appear for the poster unless he refreshes the page and if you delete the post it doesn't disapper client-side either. So the poster wouldn't even know about you trying to communicate unless he keeps his browser clean from old tabs or you ban him and he tries to post. As for Tor, why don't you add an explicit rule that it's blocked here? And the half-assed solution against it barely works so it could use an update too if you care about restricting niggers like me from using this site.

mys_elf Board owner 09/04/2025 (Thu) 04:52:58 Id:a72e2e No. 813

>>812 Greetings. The posts were removed as they were in violation of global rule 13: no advertising. Even if advertised as just a proxy for 4chan, as far as we're concerned it's no different than advertising any other proxy or vpn. Reviewing the ban log I do feel like the ban was a bit excessive for what is as far as I can tell a first time offense. Generally we try to lean towards warns when possible. The bans you received were the same bans we give to the bots that sometimes make their way through, which the volunteer may have thought you one of or otherwise involved with. Furthermore regarding 4chan: While there is much to complain about, we are not 4chan. There is nothing that we can do about 4chan and so complaining about it here is largely offtopic. I think back to my impression of /pone/ all those years ago. It felt like the only thing people wanted to do there was to complain about 4chan, nobody wanted to just have fun. While I'm sure that wasn't always 100% the case, the point is that that is not what I envisioned for this site and is something I would like to avoid. Things that happen offsite are meant to stay offsite. That is the magic of anonymity. We don't want to know what posters do outside of NHNB and generally that is our policy for moderation. >Ban messages Warns will produce the same messages on post and is what we try to make use of. The red text on posts is separate from the ban/warn reason. >Blocked ranges While we do have automated lists to restrict posting from high risk ranges and IPs, we currently allow posters caught in these to bypass these restrictions by completing a bypass captcha. This is meant to avoid catching too many innocent Anons in wide sweeping automated restrictions. Ranges and IPs that we do see abuse from will receive a manual ban and lose the ability to bypass.

Hypocrite 09/04/2025 (Thu) 16:53:32 Id:5fdb69 No. 814

>>813 >Greetings Sup! /) >The posts were removed as they were in violation of global rule 13: no advertising. I understand and agree with that, I acknowledge my mistake. I should've worded my posts differently. >Even if advertised as just a proxy for 4chan, as far as we're concerned it's no different than advertising any other proxy or vpn. So, no mentions of cucker in any way? Fair. But I still think that HP should know about that option regardless how shady it is. >Reviewing the ban log I do feel like the ban was a bit excessive for what is as far as I can tell a first time offense. Generally we try to lean towards warns when possible. The bans you received were the same bans we give to the bots that sometimes make their way through, which the volunteer may have thought you one of or otherwise involved with. I'm using the same VPN (Tor) like them and acted just like you'd expect one to so it's completely understandable reaction. But not really useful in the context of Tor. You either have to block it completely or come up with some sort of a special filter for it. And you can't appeal to the ban history too. >Furthermore regarding 4chan: While there is much to complain about, we are not 4chan. There is nothing that we can do about 4chan and so complaining about it here is largely offtopic. I think back to my impression of /pone/ all those years ago. It felt like the only thing people wanted to do there was to complain about 4chan, nobody wanted to just have fun. Things that happen offsite are meant to stay offsite. That is the magic of anonymity. We don't want to know what posters do outside of NHNB and generally that is our policy for moderation. True. But that's to be expected too since the userbase is largely consists from 4chan refugees. I posted on this site from time to time before the hack and it makes me a bit sad too that nobody wants to see this place separately from 4chan. I don't think anything could be done with that though, as a someone who's been using imageboards for quite a while it feels like their days are long gone, people don't need them as a something separate from the other internet, everything is too interconnected now. No homogenious and anonymous groups could exist anymore. No idea what to do with that problem and anyone else I've seen who holds the same opinion as me cares to even think about solving it. I respect that you still haven't given up, and the last bit of hope I have is my soul is that someday this site will prove me wrong. >Warns will produce the same messages on post and is what we try to make use of. The red text on posts is separate from the ban/warn reason. Warns are infinitely better that bans. In an ideal world. But if we don't believe in people it will never get better, right? >While we do have automated lists to restrict posting from high risk ranges and IPs, we currently allow posters caught in these to bypass these restrictions by completing a bypass captcha. This is meant to avoid catching too many innocent Anons in wide sweeping automated restrictions. Ranges and IPs that we do see abuse from will receive a manual ban and lose the ability to bypass. If spammer can solve one captcha he can as easily solve the second exact one. 4chan in that case forces an hcaptcha for high risk ranges, or asks for an email verification. And that does help, it's the only thing that slows cucker down for now. Even 2/5 minute timers barely do anything. I honestly don't mind solving an hcaptcha to be able to post from Tor. That's the price I'm willing to pay for utilising the laziest option to enhance one's privacy.

Hypocrite 09/04/2025 (Thu) 16:55:10 Id:5fdb69 No. 815

Now, if come to thing about it, Tor and cucker are pretty similar, aren't they? They both are tools that could trivially be utilized for ban evasion, spamming and so on. And they both obfuscate user's identity so you can't judge them as you would a human being, either everyone's guilty or no one. Accounts or, in 4chan's case, cookies (basically the same thing) would partually help if you assume everyone is a ban evader unless proven innocent with an extra task, but that's what you and 4chan are doing already.

mys_elf Board owner 09/05/2025 (Fri) 00:54:06 Id:a72e2e No. 816

>>814 >So, no mentions of cucker in any way? Fair. But I still think that HP should know about that option regardless how shady it is. While I think it may be permissible to mention that proxies exist, I think I'd prefer people not trying to direct anons to specific places. If Anons know such services exist, they can do their own research as to what those places are. >But not really useful in the context of Tor. You either have to block it completely or come up with some sort of a special filter for it. I believe known tor IPs should be included in our automated lists, but as I've said we currently allow these IPs to use bypass. >True. But that's to be expected too since the userbase is largely consists from 4chan refugees. I posted on this site from time to time before the hack and it makes me a bit sad too that nobody wants to see this place separately from 4chan. I don't think anything could be done with that though, as a someone who's been using imageboards for quite a while it feels like their days are long gone, people don't need them as a something separate from the other internet, everything is too interconnected now. No homogenious and anonymous groups could exist anymore. No idea what to do with that problem and anyone else I've seen who holds the same opinion as me cares to even think about solving it. I respect that you still haven't given up, and the last bit of hope I have is my soul is that someday this site will prove me wrong. It is what it is. While it might be nice to have a few more anons posting here, we can still make the best out of what we've got. >Warns are infinitely better that bans. In an ideal world. But if we don't believe in people it will never get better, right? The hope is to remind people of the rules before needing to resort to a ban. >If spammer can solve one captcha he can as easily solve the second exact one. 4chan in that case forces an hcaptcha for high risk ranges, or asks for an email verification. And that does help, it's the only thing that slows cucker down for now. Even 2/5 minute timers barely do anything. I honestly don't mind solving an hcaptcha to be able to post from Tor. That's the price I'm willing to pay for utilising the laziest option to enhance one's privacy. Making a more effective captcha is on the to do list. When exactly I'll get to it is to be determined. At the moment the bot situation is tenable. I do not want to collect emails.

Hypocrite 09/05/2025 (Fri) 01:47:27 Id:c5f7cd No. 817

>>816 >While I think it may be permissible to mention that proxies exist, I think I'd prefer people not trying to direct anons to specific places. If Anons know such services exist, they can do their own research as to what those places are. Understood, will do. >At the moment the bot situation is tenable. This is all that's needed from a captcha, glad to know you don't have any problems on that matter. After all why change a thing if it's not broken?